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DYK for Smoking in Japan

Updated DYK query On 3 November 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Smoking in Japan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Russian Scouting in exile

Yesterday and today I worked on the articels of N.O.R.S., N.O.R.R. and ORUR. My Russian contact and my sources told me that ORUR is one organization in exile and in Russia. Can we grade up the quality rating of the articles? -Phips (talk) 16:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Your image

See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scouting#Image:--ScoutsChris3.jpg — Rlevse • Talk • 21:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:--ScoutsChris3.jpg

Hi, I see two problems with this image.

  1. It has a poor filename
  2. It's copyright information is inadequate

I thought you'd like to fix this. Images w/o proper copyright information can be deleted on sight. -- Cat chi? 21:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Burden of proof is on you as you are the one claiming it is unfree. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Zimbabwe

http://www.zimscouts.co.zw/ is back up. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

User notice: temporary 3RR block

Regarding reversions[1] made on November 19, 2008 to General William J. Palmer High School

You have been blocked from editing for a short time in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.
The duration of the block is 8 hours. William M. Connolley (talk) 19:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "the so-called "edit-war" is between myself, an established three-year editor who is replacing properly multiply-sourced material, and a new user and his sock/meatpuppets who are removing this sourced material without providing sources of their own. I ask that you lift this block, and further that you protect General_William_J._Palmer_High_School from edits by new users. Check the edit history. When is continually removing sourced material considered to be a viable edit? Note-in addition, this is my first such block, and I would ask once I am found not to have been engaged in an actual edit-war, that this be cleaned off my record. I'm not perfect, but I'm not blockworthy. Further note-the other user in question has now created another account to pick up where he left off, and continues to remove the material from the Palmer article. I submit that this shows I was not dealing with an equitable editor, but an SPA and probably a vandal."

Decline reason: "Yeah, you may or may not be in the right, but calling another user a retard in an edit summary makes you lose the moral high ground here. It is clear this was not simply drive by vandalism, both of you have battling sources which support your position. Neither side looks particularly good in this war; when the block expires take it up at the talk page, and work out your differences there rather than repeatedly enforcing your version of the article with reverts. — Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)"

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  • Well, the problem is that the content under discussion wasn't vandalism or a BLP violation, so repeatedly removing it was edit warring. 3RR is the tripwire that allows an admin to step in and stop that action immediately (thought edit warring need not be >3 reverts). Disputing content of an article needs to be done at the talk page--it is better in the long run to let the "wrong" version of an article stand rather than revert over a preferred version. Protonk (talk) 02:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree that repeatedly removing the content was edit warring, but I was not doing the removing, the disruptive editor was repeatedly removing it. I was replacing the sourced material. I brought it to the talk page and there was no answer. Again, this is a longterm editor versus an SPA that does not cite sources for their removal. This is not just two regular editors going at it. I've had that happen and that can be solved, usually. The other user in question has now created another account to pick up where he left off, and continues to remove the material from the Palmer article. I submit that this shows I was not dealing with an equitable editor, but an SPA. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not being clear. Since the change in content wasn't vandalism or an otherwise acceptable excemption from WP:EW, continually reverting the content changes was edit warring. Blocking both parties was one way to end the disruption on the article. I mean, I don't want to be a jerk and say "you broke rule XYZ" over and over again, but 3rr is a line in the sand that can't be crossed. Remember that this isn't a black mark or a sign of your underlying moral character. It doesn't make you a vandal or a vindictive person. It just means that you were blocked. Plenty of admins, bureaucrats and other long-term users have been blocked for edit warring (either early in their time here or not). It was clear from William's block that he knows that you aren't the one starting the disruption or forcing the issue--just that you should have stopped reverting and tried dispute resolution. Protonk (talk) 05:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
I have now put in a request at WP:3O, and the other user and his socks are now being looked at. Thanks for the clarify. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

pssst. over here...

sniff. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: Scout Graphic

You're welcome! My main skill with images is just conversion of formats. If that is what you have in mind, or maybe some other kind of minor image maintenance, then yes is the answer to your question! Oh yes and thanks for sorting out the source information on my .PNG version.

(Sorry about the lateness of my reply- been realy busy in rl) WazzaMan (talk) 21:25, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Latviaindep.png

Do you have any information on this emblem? I fear that "one of the independent regional organizations" is to little to keep this image. --jergen (talk) 11:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I do not think that "regional Scouting emblem from Zemgale" is sufficient to keep it. We have very little information on Scouting in Latvia and I am not even sure if and how many independent organizations exist. I could not find anything searching the web, except the LSGCO and the UIGSE-member.
I just checked the history, and - astonishingly - it was me writing about the existence of independent organizations... Can't remember what source I did use. I will search harder. --jergen (talk) 08:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
The only organization I found was the Zemgales skautu organizācija, last mentioned in 1997/98. --jergen (talk) 13:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Azerbeijan

I would wait for the website; it's far better to have even a primary source (with all the problems we discussed recently on Girl Scouts of Jamaica) than to quote from a letter or e-mail. But why not putting the quote on the article's talk page? --jergen (talk) 08:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Image on Graphics Lab

Hi there, I've done some work to your image on the Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab. Check it out when you get a chance. Talk to you soon! Mononomic (talk) 18:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, I've done some more work to your image on the Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab. Check it out when you get a chance. Talk to you soon! Mononomic (talk) 00:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

requests?

Your CrusadeBot is turned off. Will it come back? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Not likely. I think another bot was made to replace it. —Remember the dot (talk) 00:07, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Armenian piroshki

Thank you for your interesting contribution to the Armenian angle in Pirozhki. Do you by any chance have a photograph of piroshki being sold/eaten in Armenia? Can you provide a source for your interesting description of piroshki as an Armenian street food? If you are knowledgeable about Armenian food in general, perhaps you would be willing to take a look at the page Armenian cuisine and see if you can contribute anything there also (especially to the resolution of red links). Thank you. --Zlerman (talk) 10:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
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