Talk:Public speaking.html



This article was nominated for merging with Oratory on 24 October 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

It seems to me that the "Fundamentals of public speaking" are mainly just someone's opinion. Whose? --LMS

Another merge discussion

Disagree with merge

I disagree with the merge, while linked, the two are separate concepts. This article can cover good public speaking technique and the public speaker can cover the "business" of public speaking, where many former politicians (it is a political stub afterall) or businessmen or whomever go on paid speaking tours. There is significant room to grow for both articles. Reflex Reaction 15:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Agreement with merge

Both pages are small and although there are differences the basic concept is simular if not exactly the same; surely the point of an artical is to expand on the basics. People are intelligent enough to distinguish between the two. Fuck you...

Agree with merge

Without public speaking, you have no public speakers. Without public speakers, you have no public speaking. Without Public Speaking, there would be no large presidential speeches, or school yard assemblies, without public speaking, there would be alot of parliament

The concepts of each are the same, and both can be defined in one entry.

Disagree with merger

I think 'public speaking' should not be merged with 'public speaker', as the laters common applys to a certain amount of professional ability in the public speaker, and the former, of anyone who speaks in public.

Merger

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Disagree

1. Strong Disagree They are two entyirely separate articles.Frelke 07:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
2. Disagree These topic are two completely seperate things, and it should be kept that way.Thepangelinanpost 23:01, 07 March 2006 (EST)
3. Disagree I disagree. 164.106.249.254 (talk) 16:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Disagree

Different concepts, Add see also to both pages.Ghostieguide 02:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Remove merge template

I have removed both the merge templates. There is no consensus and no real interest. Lets move on.Frelke 12:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed Frat Boy

This Sentence isn't appropriate next to a description of Hitler and Dr. King:

Johnny Gannaw the current president of the fraternal order of Rangi Ya Giza at University of Redlands, class of '08, is well known for his confidence and poise during public speaking sessions.

Removed lalalalallsajrfojkhdigfjshreuitghksfjgkwaeyhiuehgj hi people!

See also and Ext Links

I have just reverted the previous edits by TheTrueSora as as far as I could see the links seemed to have been trimmed at random. I'm not saying they were at random, just that it seemed that way to me. Could we have a bit of talk about what should go and what should stay ? Frelke 16:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Training

I think there may be an error or omission in the second sentence of the following excerpt taken from the "Training" section of the article. "Public speaking" inserted after "but," may do the trick. Also, in my opinion, the entire second sentence is merely the opinion of the author, unsupported, and superfluous.

Using a forum such as Toastmasters to practice public speaking skills after receiving professional training is a time-tested approach to developing one's ability to speak well. It is difficult to really receive any formal training but, can still be taught and practiced by those seeking to improve their public communication skills. --Thanks75.68.192.62 (talk) 13:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

A book that can help minors with pulic or private speeches is Help I Need to Give a Speech --68.192.210.103 (talk)DJ 19:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Orator/Oratory/Public speaking merge proposal

One year after the prior discussion, it seems there hasn't been enough of an effort to demonstate why oratory should be separate from public speaking (as the former is a branch of the latter); thus I have proposed a merge here. In addition, the orator article appears to be nothing more than an unsourced list which would have a hard time passing AfD (per WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE) once the sourced entries are removed. Clearly a sourced list article, with objective rules for inclusion, would be better (with an appropriate title of the form "List of...."), but in the meantime, oratory and orator should be pared and merged with public speaking. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• After a 12-day discussion with no participation, I've WP:BOLDly redirected Orator into Public speaking as the former was a mess of unsourced OR. The tags have been adjusted for the other two articles. 147.70.242.41 (talk) 22:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)